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 I love Subarus. I've had 6 of them: a 1980 GL, 1984 DL, 1990 Loyale, 1993 Legacy, 1996 Outback and 2004 Forester. All of them wagons. I have literally put hundreds of thousands of miles on them. I drove one all the way around the United States hitting pretty much all four corners (and leaking oil most of the way, I recall). I've carried 12 or 13 kayaks on top (all at the same time) to move them across town. I've driven from San Diego all the way up to San Francisco with six people jammed inside (hey, it was college days!). I've climbed really muddy and rocky roads to mountain cabins. I've gone out in crazy blizzards when other car owners have been stuck at home. I've used and abused them in all sorts of ways. In so many ways, I'm a walking billboard for how great a car they can be... and I know I've sold others on how great a vehicle they are. I love 'em... and for over 20 years, the only car I have driven has been a Subaru. But I won't be buying a 2005 Subaru. Nor, it seems, a 2006 Subaru. They've lost me. I won't be buying another one. And it has everything to do with open standards... and iPods... You see, when we moved back from Canada, the plan was to trade in the 96 Outback for a 2005 Outback and be done with it. We were then going to sell the 2004 Forester up in Canada (because it's a Canadian car and it's easier than importing it and converting it to a US car). We were thinking of either going with one car for a bit, and if necessary replacing the second car with perhaps a Subaru Outback Sport (what they used to call the Impreza, it seems). However, when we went to look, I had a (to me) extremely simple requirement. I wanted to be able to either: - Connect my iPod directly to the radio; or
- Swap out the radio for one of the zillion radios you can get now at Best Buy and similar stores that support iPod connections
My basic reason is that while my iTrip works okay, there's a fundamental problem that the FM spectrum is just way too jammed these days and so when you travel around, you keep running into areas where the interference is too great from stations on the same (or nearby) frequency that you are using. So you have to change frequency... and then change again when that signal gets trodden upon. If you're in the same general area a lot, it's usually okay. But if you are driving long distances, it's a pain. So I want a direct connection using either of the two above methods. It turns out that you can't do either with a Subaru Outback or Legacy (the only models we're interested in). Unlike some GM cars, there's no simple Line In jack that you can plug your iPod (or other MP3 player) into. In fact, it seems that none of the models have anything near support except for maybe the very high-cost L.L. Bean edition that has a radio that can play MP3s that you have burned to a CD. Okay, I say... I've never really heard anyone praise a manufacturer radio for it's high audio quality... I'll just swap it out. Sorry, but no. It seems that some genius in Subaru's design made the decision that Subaru would drop support for the "open standard" of normal car radios and instead would build the electronics into the actual console unit. In other words, the radio is just a PC board fastened to the inside of the console... if you open it up, there's just air behind where the radio normally would be (or perhaps they put some other part of the car there). Now I can see the logic in someone's mind: - It is cheaper to manufacture because we don't have to put in any annoying support shelf and connectors for the car radio. Just manufacture it as a simple solid unit. And...
- It locks buyers in to Subaru radios (and dealers). If you want an upgraded radio, you must buy from Subaru. No trips to Best Buy or Wal-Mart for you, boy... you must come back to us to get your new radio. And yep, we won't be charging you the Wal-Mart prices... you'll have to pay a pretty penny.
I think this latter point is what annoys me so much. It's not so much the iPod issue... it's the lack of choice and control. Connecting my iPod to my Subaru is just my concern today, but what about five years from now when the next hot gadget comes out? How quickly will Subaru innovate and support it in their manufactured car radios? (Their current status with lack of iPod support doesn't give me much hope!) Or if my radio should die, why should I be forced to only go back to a Subaru dealer? It's funny... it's very much all the same open source arguments around operating systems. We (supporters of open source) have always used the "hood welded shut" analogy for comparing operating systems, saying "would you buy a car that was welded shut (or locked shut) that you couldn't just take to any mechanic? That you had to bring back to your dealer?" Instead we've suggested that you want the choice and control... that you might very well bring it back to the dealer... but you might also bring it to anyone else. Whoever can give you the best service/price/satisfaction/etc. You want the choice and control. And yet here is Subaru taking away that very choice and control. And perhaps it seems like a minor thing... to get so worked up over being able to change the radio... and perhaps I am making too big of a deal of it. But perhaps not. In all honesty, it greatly saddens me, because the reality is that as I said before for over 20 years, I have only ever driven Subarus. I had expected to continue to be driving them for many, many more years. But now all our plans for vehicles have been thrown in disarray and now... after all this time... I'm actually visiting other dealerships... our current thinking is maybe a Toyota Matrix (or it's twin, the Pontiac Vibe) as they do now have an All-Wheel Drive model. (Other suggestions are welcome.) Subaru is no longer the only game in town when it comes to AWD wagons... and so it looks like I will vote with my feet, wallet, and opinions... I do hope, Subaru, that you will someday come to your senses and give us back that control. You've lost me... you'll probably lose others... it's too bad, because in so many ways you make a darn good car! Tags: life, subaru Current Mood: disappointed
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Thanks for commenting. I absolutely agree with you that Subarus are awesome cars! The Outbacks and Legacys are sweet to drive and handle pretty much any kind of weather you can throw at them. Here in Vermont there are a whole load of Subarus because it's the perfect car to have for the weather and terrain. Like I said, I've owned 6 Subarus and they were the only car I owned for 20 years. We now have a Toyota Matrix and it's a great car, too, but it is louder than the Outback and can't hold quite as much cargo.
However, Toyota does not (yet, anyway) lock me in to not being able to upgrade my car radio if I should choose to do so.
Given how great the cars are, I think this move by Subaru was an insanely dumb one. I can only assume it was either ignorance (i.e. someone said "hey, we could shave a few bucks by putting the radio motherboard right into the console" and nobody thought through the ramifications) or arrogance (i.e "people love our cars and they will just keep on buying them no matter what we do") - or some combination of both.
What they missed is that, in my opinion, I am the type of evangelist they should want to keep. Over the 20 years I drove them, I showed people how awesome Subarus were and recommended them to whomever asked (and I know several people considered them after I raved about the cars). With some of the places I went with them and cargo I carried, people riding with me were quite impressed.
Now I tell people that Subarus are great cars but warn them that they are buying a car with a radio that they can't upgrade themselves (unless they are willing to pay Subaru some unspecified-but-probably-large amount of money to upgrade the radio whenever Subaru gets around to upgrading it). This has already turned off a number of people who, like me, own MP3 players and are looking for other options than FM transmitters. Others just haven't liked the "proprietary lock-in".
So wake up, Subaru! You make awesome cars but your arrogance and/or stupidity is costing you sales. End the lock-in and put a standard - and replaceable - car radio back in your cars... and then, and perhaps only then, do you have a shot at winning people back like me. (In the meantime, I'm really starting to enjoy the Toyota Matrix and that we're thinking that a Toyota Prius might now be our second car when/if we get one. We never really looked at anything but Subarus in the past, but now we are, and finding that there are other options...)
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: March 19th, 2006 08:29 am (UTC) |
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hey dan,
I found your post along with some other people out there looking for a way to hook up an iPod to the retarded subaru head unit. I think it will actually be relatively easy:
1. $200 Buy an HK controller gizmo: http://www.cardomain.com/item/HARDP1US 2. $50 Buy Jazzy's CD changer intercep board: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18504 3. $0 Install it. 4. $0 Done. Pimp iPod control.
Less than the cost of most dealer installed iPod integrations.. and the iPod stays out of sight.
The _single_ pseudo-con to this setup: you need to run an 80MM blank CD in the changer while you're using the iPod, so the changer sends the "pay attention to me" signal to the controller. Lame, but when you consider that it's a 6 CD changer - not very lame (i.e. you don't ever have to take the CD out of the changer, you just give up one of your CD slots.. but you don't own any CDs because you have an iPod... right ? :)
Anyway, I just leased an 06 Subaru, and yes they have a retarded design. So f*it I'll just hack the car to do what I want.
I think this will be fairly pimp, actually :)
To compare an 06 Outback with (for example) a 96 is like comparing a beach cruiser to a titanium mountain bike. The car is tight, powerful, and super nice. They also finally got around to adding curtain airbags...
Enjoy the matrix.
_a
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